Senior Fellow Lawrence McQuillan, author of California Dreaming, appears on WEBY radio in Florida. McQuillan discusses the implications of leaving future generations saddled with debt owed to public employee pension systems. His simple idea is to switch now to a defined contribution plan, similar to a 401-k, rather than a defined benefit plan, such as a pension plan. Private companies long ago did away with defined benefit plans. Across the United States, cities, states and counties have pension plans for public employees that are underfunded. Recent bankruptcies have shown that if the trend continues, judges will cut the payments to retirees in bankruptcy rulings.