In this episode Dr. Atlas interviews Alex Epstein, bestselling author and philosopher. He is the author of "The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels", arguing that human flourishing and freedom itself require that humanity use more fossil fuels, not less. His most recent book is "Fossil Future: Why Global Human Flourishing Requires More Oil, Coal, and Natural Gas—Not Less". They have a conversation about energy policy, its tradeoffs, and its moral basis, including required energy conversion, mandated electric vehicles, and other policies that have become dogmas to progressive policymakers and many citizens, to a point where even questioning these ideas provokes cancellation and attack.